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is rigged by those in power and lobbyists. the plans for the future of medicare are dangerous. if we hand them over to the present health insurance companies. what you will see is somebody fighting for fairness and the voice of hard-working wisconsin families to be heard. >> governor, you have been defined as someone who is -- who hoas stopped being one of us. and you have sold out a special corporate influences. criticism has focused on will have done since being governor. do you have second thoughts about jobs you have held, you have represented? >> no. no. nobody else to say that except my opponent. she spent millions because she is no record to run on. she's been in congress of the 14 years. she did nothing while she was there issue passed three bills. i was governor of the state. cut taxes 91 times, passed welfare reform, school choice, a charter schools, but did care. senior care. all programs for the low, middle income. for everybody in the state of wisconsin dairy 90% of the people in wisconsin elmi just as -- for everybody in the state of wisconsin. 90% of the people in wisconsin
. obamacare that is endangering the access of medicare to our seniors. now, this sequestration deal is threatening another 200,000 virginia jobs. in washington, you deserve a strong, independent voice. if i have the honor of serving as your united states senator, i will work hard to build a society where hard work is rewarded and every american has an opportunity to succeed. >> thank you for those opening statements. we want to get to the questions. you will receive 90 seconds to enter each section -- question. we have a lot of great questions from our viewers. we will be weaving that into these questions. neither candidate or campaign has knowledge or access to any of the questions we will ask tonight. this is your last opportunity state-wide to communicate to the voters. as a result, i want to begin with what i think is the campaign narrative and what has become the criticism for both of you. governor kaine, we will begin with you. you will be president obama's senator kerry you heard it just now. you are friends with the president. you were the chair of the party at his request.
for the wealthiest americans. it is so draconian that it would require deep cuts in social security and medicare over time. or we can embrace a balanced approach. that's what i support. i think we can go back to the kind of tax rates we had under the clinton administration when the upper income earners were doing well and the entire economy was growing. we will have to make some tough choices. a balanced approach is the only approach i believe will get us there. >> your rebuttal? >> it is amazing to me that you can stand here, having voted for a trillion dollar deficits for the last four years, the largest, fastest debt increase in american history, can say that we have to control spending. you have done nothing to control spending over the last four years. with respect to cut, cap, and balance, it's amazing to me that the idea of cutting wasteful spending, capping the ability of congress to spend money we don't have, and balancing the budget is extreme. i think it would force congress to set priorities and stopped funding in things like solyndra and prioritize things like social security, medicare,
way back, but you keep bringing up that my plan would and medicare, and social security -- end medicare and social security, they would not. if you read the plan, you would know that. you say that i endorse the ryan planet, i said that they were plans. at least they had the four were thinking and the courage to bring out various plans, which few people in your party, nor have you, have come out talking about how to secure them. let's take these plans and have a discussion. we cannot continue to bury our heads in the sand. there are many things you said here. i never said that on the air. i'm speaking to my plan, the written plan, so please take a look at that plan. i do not want to end social security. it emphatically states in there that i will do nothing. it will be protected. that's between the government banned them. -- and them. there are some plans in there that will save it for the long haul. i will end it there. have been gracious with time. >> do you need a rebuttal? 15 seconds. >> the most radical proposal in the senate that a grand total of 16 votes and it was the ra
to put that money back into medicare. we cannot afford that. i would be proud to carry the legislation as i was proud to carry the legislation to fund obamacare, i would be proud to support legislation to repeal obamacare. >> speaking about president obama, and i will have to ask the question differently. where has the president failed montana, and how would you fix it? >> i think he failed montana in health care. he added to a system that has already failed. i think the stimulus has already failed. our solution was not to pump money into a onetime expenditure. we want to try to expand payroll taxes. that would put money in the hands of small businesses. i would suggest the new regulations coming out are destroying jobs in billings, montana, costing over $10 million every year from our economy. but i do not understand why you would have an energy tax that is hurting our oil, coal, and gas industries on montana that we rely upon. >> the you feel president obama has implemented policies that hurt montana? >> i feel the race to the top is not a good policy for education for one candidate.
. let's streamline them. we have attacked medicare fraud and abuse. we need to continue to do that, in all government agencies. i spent years going into numerous fortune 500 countries -- companies looking for these inefficiencies. i plan using my government to find this week. >> can either of you give me any numbers? the department of energy? >> close to $85 billion. you are looking at a guy, never been in politics before, and i found three wasteful programs in the government. the combined savings of -- if every single member of the house was going and looking for wasteful programs, think about what that does. >> it is going to be a balanced approach. we need to look into it the tax code and go after deductions and loopholes that far too many corporations and individuals are getting away with. we need to make it a more fair playing field for companies. >> i wanted to get a break with my producer's questions, up because we hear from candidates all the time about what we are going to find wasteful spending. this is a chart, the u.s. debt clock, and viewers can see it, you can look in
money away from medicare. would you like or not like about the affordable care at? >> access to affordable care is what i like. the two parties, the democrats and republicans, which i hope are replaced by more independents, they do not come to completely form when it comes to these major issues. major lobby groups like big pharmaceutical, the u.s. chamber of commerce, ama and even the aarp should get into the room and be forced to make -- they go into a room and are forced to make requirements that are not in the benefit of the people. we do not have a public option, which would have allowed people to not have a mandate and to have a public insurance provider. it was because of these different pharmaceutical and lobbyist groups. everyone is taking money from them. we need to stop that. >> governor cain -- king? do you want to answer that question? >> we should keep the affordable care act. it is helping a lot of people. i have a young men in the office who is 23 years old and covered by his parents' insurance. he was born with a tumor in his brain, not cancerous. because of a
medication -- medicare as we know it. that is a legitimate debate to have. but going on the air and sending $20 million to attack senator casey is what people are sick and tired of. they are done with those types of advertisements. i think that is why tom smith and that brand of politics, he will be rejected in this election. host: let's go to bismarck, north dakota. independent line. nathaniel, thanks for waiting. caller: thank you for having me on. good morning. host: good morning. caller: i would like the floor to yield 10 seconds. if i could reserve 10 more, i would like to be heard a little bit more. host: this is not the u.s. senate. but we will grant that request. caller: people who put the u.s. senate in place, my point of view as an independent is, when george bush was our present, -- president, you do not talk about the president negatively. he has the vote of the entire united states. it is the job of the congress and the senate to cooperate with our direct advocates straight from the top. he knows what we want because we voted for him. he made promises. it is your turn to help
with the budget control act, this means closing tax loopholes, this means medicare saving money by negotiating drug prices directly. rea importation with canada. -- reimportation with canada. there are a lot of ways to save billions of dollars. we can say that we will always beat for lower taxes. we have cut taxes many times and i will continue to do that. but this will have to be a balance plan. >> i want to go back to something that mr. mandel was talking about. you attack them -- and now you are exceeding president obama's agenda 96% of the time. is this one-sided? >> what i have done is taken on the president of my own party when i think he is wrong. i disagreed with president clinton as a freshman member of the house on the north american free trade agreement. it was not easy opposing the president of the united states as a freshman member of congress and i have done this with barack obama on trade issues. i have done this with banking issues. on too big to fail, my legislation to break up the sixth largest trillion-dollar banks in this country, we lost on that but the support for this is
. it is not just jobs. it takes $700 billion out of medicare. there is only one candidate for the united states senate tonight who has voted to cut medicare. i also believe that it increases the cost of health care. we are seeing that already come close to $3,000 increase in health insurance premiums. it is going to cause our rural hospitals to close. i worked on the health care improvement act. i do not mind if my kids are on my insurance. i want them out of my refrigerator, but i do not mind if they are on my insurance. i think people should be able to buy insurance across state lines. those things will help to control the cost of healthcare. the cost of health care is the real problem. >> i am very proud of the work we did to reform health care in this country. a father came up to me in the middle of that debate and encapsulated what it meant for his family. he said, my daughter has epilepsy. when she pops out in her coverage and is no longer eligible because she's too old, there is not a single insurance plan that will take care. that is what health insurance reform means to me, he said. we
the board, the guy who pledged to voucherize medicare, all of a sudden, he does not plan to cut their programs. he plans to slow their growth. he eliminates $2,500 tax cuts for middle-class parents, it takes $1,000 off of pell grants, knocking god knows how many people out of college. saying they are not cutting medicare or environmental protection is like mitt romney trying to convince the guy in the unemployment line that he did not outsource his job, he offshored his job. and now romney is running ads all across the country about getting tough on china. the same guy the washington post called a pioneer in outsourcing. the same guy who criticize the president for taking action in china, saving thousands of jobs in the steel and rubber industry. the same guy who has part of his fortune invested in chinese companies. the same job the wants to sign a territorial act that would create 800,000 jobs -- all of them overseas. this is a guy who as governor of massachusetts literally outsourced the call service that people would call into to see if they qualified for unemployment. he se
that ryan and romney want to turn medicare into a voucher system. that the spear into the heart of not only people that you're 50 or 55 years old, those that are not there yet to be very careful. we should be very wary of the romney/ryan ticket. romney has done a fantastic job on everything including this latest hurricane relief, which romney/ryan wanted to get rid of the month. -- rid of fema > host: how closely are you watching the senate race? caller: pretty closely. i think bob casey has tremendous character and integrity. he has done so much for this state. he certainly is focused on small business which is very important. he does not overregulated. he has enough regulation to try to protect us from too much pollution, things like that. he let industry prospered. he really has a great balance on that. host: let's take a look at a couple of tweet. fifes president obama listing out the storm victims and romney tried to lift up himself and his agenda. that is a reacting to the recently addresses. obama is lying about benghazi. what is going on? to kathleen on our independent caller line.
on the banks across the economy, medicare vouchers. millionaires will get one of the largest tax cuts ever while middle-class families pay more. that is what mitt romney wants to bring here. remember that when you go here. host: back to your calls. if there is an election dispute, what happens next? jim is on the republican line from alabama. caller: i just had a quick comment about some of the postings that i saw you had on the facebook posting about saying if obama were not elected there would be riots in the street. i really do not believe that it will be an election dispute. i think mitt romney is probably going to win overwhelmingly. i think every honest american 2016 go see the obama movie or rented on the redbox. i do not know what is wrong with america. people believe they do not have to go to work and make a living now. expect the government to supply their living for them. host: thank you for the call. are we a democracy or a republic? if we end the alleged world college will be a democracy -- eventual tyranny. gale on the independent line. caller: high. what i find absolutely s
about priorities. it is about what values do we care about. i am not going to turn medicare into a voucher to pay taxes. i am not going to allow this nation to be plunged into another battle over health-care reform and take millions of americans of health care and weaken the reforms we put in place, including making sure young people can stay on their parents' plan just so insurance companies can jump back into the driver's seat. by the way, i am not going to allow politicians in washington to control health-care choices women should make it by themselves. i am not going to do that. we are not going to go backwards. we are going to go for words. -- forwards. [applause] colorado, we know what change is. we know what the future requires. we do not need a big government agenda or a small government agenda. we need a middle class agenda that will reward responsibility. we need a common sense agenda that says when we educate a poor child, it helps us all, that says we donate suit science, her discovery will benefit all americans. we need an agenda that recognizes we do not just l
medicare, medicare guarantee to turn it into a voucher. it's taking students asking them to pay more, it's taking middle class putting average increase on their taxes. >> what you're saying, it's a general sense of fairness, 70/30 that you come up with. congressman before you were elected to congress, you signed a pledge to grover norquist to never raise taxes. why the change? >> certainly what it does, it talks about if you're going to lower rates, you got lower them in others. i don't believe necessarily raising taxes is the answer. >> you're now open to increased revenue? two years ago -- >> when i got to washington, things were worse than i anticipated. what i do know, you got to work together to get a solution. what i am looking to try to do is solve these big problems. i come forth with an idea and a plan. we look at more and more out of work today than we want to see. we got 23 million americans out of work and unemployed. my opponent has yet to come up for a plan. what we do have is to criticize me. >> one of the sub text of the questions i was asking, is part of attacking the se
it would charge those of medicare and extra six to $400 a year. i talk to people all over this district. they cannot afford an additional $6,400 out of pocket. are we going to do it on the backs of workers such as those upton to freeport to jobs are getting set to china? because there are tax incentives to do that? or are we going to continue to give tax breaks for big oil at the expense of middle class families that are going to be asked to pay $2,000 more under the ryan budget plan that my opponent supports. $100 billion and a savings every year. the report is sitting on a shelf. it has a proposal such as merging the small business administration with the department of commerce. it has proposals like getting rid of redundant services. for instance, job training programs. there are 44 redundant job training programs that we can do away with. >> the same questions with specifics justice, schilling. >> i believe you start with the top and lead by example. my opponent talks about the mail as i said. i invested less than 50 cents per constituent in the district. we spent money communicatin
in the 1930's. what was the life expectancy in the 1930's? probably 63 or 64. >> 61. >> medicare was passed in 1960. what was the life expectancy then? probably 65. today, it is at 85. these programs were never meant to last 20 years. of course we are going to change them, and we will change them in a balanced way will remove the cap so people like me do not have our social security stops at $110,000. but we will also have to change some of the structure. some singers may not be happy about that, but if someone talked to them in a reasonable, goldway, they will accept it. >> i went out and talked to the villages -- in a reasonable the adult way, they will accept it. >> i went out and talk to the villages in florida. groups of seniors, i would walk through it in detail. at the end of the conversation i would ask how many oppose what i knew in. i did not get a single hand. -- would oppose what i am doing. i did not get a single hand. there is more that we have to do. but there are some very low hanging fruit out there that we can take care of. a one of them is the issue of eligibility. you tr
americans. it would require cuts in social security and medicare. or we can embrace a balanced approach. that is what i support. we can go back to the kind of rates we had under the clinton administration when people were doing well and the economy was growing. we're going to have to make tough choices. >> your bottle? >> it is amazing to me you can stand here having voted for chilean dollar deficits for the last four years, the largest increase in american history and say we have to control spending. you have done nothing to control spending. with respect to cut, a cap, and balance, capping the ability of congress to spend money we do not have, balancing the budget is extreme. i think it would force congress to set priorities and stop funding things like solyndra. that is why support a balanced budget amendment to the constitution. >> it is one of the races you can follow on c-span, c-span radio, and online. >> as hurricane sandy proceeds, there are still in the bates across the country. rhode island will hold a debate between david and the republican challenger. our coverage of that d
the same old argument that there will be more than $700 billion taken out of medicare. that is the same playbook mitt romney used a week ago tonight. it was wrong then and it is wrong tonight. [applause] it is not money being taken out of medicare. aarp has made this clear. the plan is to take waste fraud out and strengthen medicare. keep in mind what senator brown is in favor of, is getting rid of a bill that helps seniors' right now pay for prescription drugs, closes the so called on a whole. 11,000 seniors here in massachusetts are getting help, paying for their prescription medications. there is a lot that the affordable care act does, and it brings down health care costs. also, investments at a lot of research. i am proud to be from massachusetts where most of the research is being done. this will be a big driver for the economy here in massachusetts and ultimately for saving health-care around the country. >> you have 30 seconds. >> thank you. the bottom line is any of the seniors that are listening in the crowd, you need to pay attention. it is two quarters of a trillion dollars
said he would reform medicare and social security and save them from pending insolvency but he shrunk from proposing any solution at all. where are the jobs? where are the 9 million more jobs his stimulus would have created by now? they're in china, mexico, canada, in countries that have made themselves more attractive while obama's policies have made it less attractive here. his campaign tries to minimize the failures and to make this election about small shiny objects. it matters more than that. it matters to your family and the senior who needs an appointment met by a receptionist saying medicare isn't taking any patients i. it matters to the man in wisconsin i spoke with a few days ago and he used to have a job at there are 25 an hour with benefits and now has one at $8 an hour without benefits. it matters to the college student with $20,000 of student debt who now learns she'll be paying for $50,000 in government debt. a burden that will put the american dream beyond the reach of oh so many. achild that can't go to school because the union that funds it oppose the school choice t
medicare and social security and save them from pending insol venssi but he shrunk from proposing any solution at all. where are the jobs? where are the 9 million more jobs his stimulus would have created by now? they're in china, mexico, canada, in countries that have made themselves more attract tive while obama's policies have made it less attract tive here. his campaign tries to minimize the failures and to make this election about small shiney objects. it matters more than that. it matters to your family and the senior who needs an appointment met by a receptionist saying medicare isn't taking any patients i. it matters to the man in wisconsin i spoke with a few days ago and he used to have a job at there are 25 an hour with benefits and now has one at $8 an hour without benefits. it matters to the college student with $20,000 of student debt who now learns she'll be paying for $50,000 in government debt. a burden that will put the american dream beyond the reach of oh so many. a child that can't go to a school because the union that funds it oppose the school choice t. president
"obamacare", 50% of doctors say they will say no to any new medicare patients. the rates have been brought down so much. he has cut medicare 716 barron dollars trip at the time in your life when health care matters so much, people will find less ability to choose the doctor they want. that is why when i am elected i will not cut medicare $760 billion. i will restore medicare and make sure seniors are given the promise -- [indiscernbile] if you are college student, and i know we have a lot of high school students here today, when you graduate, you will find that you have a lot of student debt. $10,000, $20,000, maybe more. you will be paying the interest on that for a long time. i have some news that is not very good news for our college- bound the people. when they graduate under the president's administration, half will not be able to find a good job. i want to make sure that people coming out of college are able to get a good job -- and one more thing, besides that student debt, because the president has been spending massively more than he has been taking in, where passing on debts to y
-span2. >> i regard medicare is not just a program but a promise. with my grandparents, i got to see how medicare works at a very young age. they paid in throughout their working life. we have to strengthen and extend its solvency, but i would note that tommy thompson supports a program to replace traditional medicare with a voucher. some people look to the private health insurance world with a piece of paper that does not keep up with costs -- tough luck. it is out of your own pockets. shifting costs to sailors us with a sweetheart deal with the drug company. >> medicare, ladies and gentlemen, is going to go bankrupt in the year 2024. i do not want medicare to go bankrupt. i want to fix medicare, but i want to make sure that seniors in america are protected. all of those ~ over the age of 50 by the year 2000 -- under the age of 50 a year 2000 will have a choice. i have never supported a voucher. what i support is a program that gives a choice to those 50 or under -- to a still want to be with medicare or do i want the federal health employee benefits that all the people in congress -- t
america back into the future business because it protects social security, medicare and makes america competitive internationally. so i think president clinton is a ranl guy and thought it was a great budget number one. number two i've worked with republicans. we should try to work together. i've worked on the fight to end the war in afghanistan. but the reality is there are big differences between democrats and republicans in washington. mr. doherty is a republican he's committed to more tax breaks for mill nares to repealing obama care and starteding the process all over again whofment are committed to subsidies for big oil and ending the guarantee of medicare. when you put them in power you make the chances of their agenda more of a reality. it matters a lot who we send there. the president put forth the american jobs act. . the president of the united states. he never got a hearing or a vote because the house decide he wasn't going to get one. i'm proud of rhode island values, protecting medicare, social security, rebuilding, making sure we get people back to work. protecting pell
cutting everything 19% across-the-board, his budget voucherizes medicare. not cut those programs. -- all the sudden, he says now he does not cut those programs. he just slowed their growth. he slows your growth. he limited to $2,500 tax cut that you middle-class parents used to keep your kids in school. taking thousands of the pell grants and knocking people out of college. it is like mitt romney try to convince the guy in the employment line that he did not outsourcing is job offshored his job. the result is the same. job is gone, you have a voucher and instead of a guaranteed medical benefit. now mitt romney is running ads across the country about getting tough on china. the same guy that washington post called the pioneer on outsourcing. the same guy who is criticized the president taking action against china, saving thousands of that of jobs and steel and the rubber industry. the same guy who invest in chinese companies. the same guy calling for what they now call a territorial tax which creates 800,000 jobs abroad according to experts. all of them overseas. this is the guy who was g
's doctors say, they willsa say no to medicare patients. he has cut $715 million. when health care matters so much, people will find less ability to choose the doctor they want. i will not cut this $716 million. i will restore medicare -, and makre sure seniors -- and if you're a college student -- at some point, you will be college students. you will pay the interest on that for a long time. but i have news that is not good news. if they graduate under the president, half won't find a good job. i will make sure people coming out of college are able to get good jobs. and one more thing. because the president is spending more than he is taking in, we are passing on debt to your generation. there are $50,000 of debt you have to pay. when you see taxes being withdrawn, ther eare taxee are f what is given to my generation. it is immoral for us to keep spending what we don't have. i'll get us back. [applause] >> if you're -- if you're a 40- year old or 50-year old, in the primary years of your life -- you may not put away what you thought you could put away. the expectation was money from retireme
. ♪ >> i regard medicare is not just a program but they promise. i got to see how medicare worked at the very young age. they paid in throughout their working life. we have to strengthen and extend its solvency. tommy thompson supports the program to replace traditional medicare with a voucher. if it does not keep up with costs, tough luck. it is out of your own pocket and a shifting costs to seniors. it is the wrong policy. >> medicare is going to go bankrupt in the year 2024. i do not want medicare to go bankrupt. i want to be sure seniors in america and wisconsin are protected and only those under the age of 50 by the year 2000 will have a choice, not a voucher. i have never supported a voucher. i support a program for those individuals under 50 will have a choice. >> through the weekend, watch more debates. starting saturday morning at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> let's get the album that documents the college family during the white house years -- coolidge family during the white house years. part of the family papers. several boxes of other documents. the photographs are
we to do with $3 billion a day. preservebe able to programs and strengthen programs like medicare, social security, and we prioritize the way washington spends money. >> candidate gill. >> i would like to thank everybody for being here. and i would like to thank all of the sponsoring institutions. it is important. there are many reasons i am running. my wife, we have six children between us. department advocate just a few blocks away from here. a fair part of my day is spent saving lives and bringing people back from the brink. i want to go to washington now to help bring this nation back there ha bn twma people t many people, and it is justot right. i am somebody who ows struggle. my father, when he was a young man, he did not have time so we did not have anything extra going up. -- growing up. i'd bused tables and washed dishes. i am somebody who knows how to roll up his sleeves and get to work. a lot of politicians talk about politicians -- small business people. i am a small businessman. unlike my opponent, i have never been on a public payroll. i have never taken marching der
office. he promised he would propose a plan to save social security and medicare from insolvency. he didn't. rather he raided $716 from medicare for his obama care plan. he said heed lower healthcare premiums for the average family by $2000 a year which now they're higher. and gasoline the american family pays $2,000 more a year than when the president was elected. he said he would work across the aisle on important issues. he has not met on the economy or budget or jobs with either the republican leader of the house or senate since july. so instead of bridging the divide he's made it wider. how has he fallen so sort of what he promised. in part because he never led before or worked across the aisle or understood how jobs are created in the real economy. so today he makes new promises. promises heel be enable to keep because he admits he's going to stay on the same path. the same path means $20 trillion in debt. it means crippling unemployment. stagnant take home pay. depressed home values and a devastated military. unless we change we may be looking at another recession. the question of
wing social engineering. no wonder they are running away from it now. look what it does to medicare. as joyce said, it is shameless what they're saying. they say that we are hurting medicare. anybody know anybody on medicare? you are better off now than you were before we came and. no copay for your annual visits. they would wipe all that out. the real secret, the real thing they are not talking about. as they did not talk about at the convention or now. the essential element of the budget. they literally eliminate medicare as a guarantee program. here is the deal. you should all be aware of this. under their plan, anyone reaching the age of 65 when they become eligible for their new medicare plan, anyone is automatically off of medicare. nobody is on it automatically. you can buy back into it with a budget will give you -- but it is designed not to keep pace with the cost of health care. that is why every outside group that has looked at this sad it would cost the nearest tens of thousands of dollars more. if you are 55 and go on it -- $60,000 more for your medicare. if you are 45
care -- 1.2 million medicare recipients here in virginia now have eight additional years on medicare with extended medicare for another eight years. a healthy system. 63,000 young virginians have access to health care up to the age of 26. seniors now have access to preventive health care services, which is far cheaper treating it up front and an emergency room. we extended what governor romney did in massachusetts and did it nationwide and virginians have experienced improved health care and access because of that. education -- the president has been working on higher education higherpell grant access. -- higher education, grant access. a young woman told me i am not a democrat or republican, but i am supporting president obama because i am attending a local community college on a pell grant and president obama who doubled the size of pell grants so all of americans have access to higher education. if you look at the unemployment rate, if you have a bachelor's degree, 4%, associate's degree, about 6%. but if all you have is a high- school diploma, it is double digits. the president u
would reform medicare and social security and save them from pending insolvency. but he shrunk from opposing -- proposing any solution at all. then where are the jobs? the nine million more jobs president obut ma promised his stimulus would have created by now? they're in china, mexico, canada. in countries that have made themselves more attractive for entrepreneurs and business and investment. even as president obama's policies have made it less attractive for them here. so today his campaign tries to deflect and detract, to minimize the failures and make this election about small, shiny objects. but this election matters more than that. it matters to your family. it matters to the senior who needs to get an appointment with a medical specialist but is owed by -- told by one reception after another that the doctor isn't taking new medicare patients because medicare has been/ed to pay for obamacare. it matters to the man from waukesha, wisconsin, i spoke with several days ago. in what were supposed to be his best work year he had a job at $25 an hour with benefit, now he has one at
cutting everything 19% across-the-board, his budget voucherizes medicare. all of a sudden he says he does not cut those programs. he just slowed their growth. he limited to $2,500 tax cut that you middle-class parents used to keep your kids in school. taking thousands of the pell grants and knocking people out of college. it is like mitt romney try to convince the guy in the employment line that he did not outsourcing is job offshored his job. the result is the same. job is gone, you have a voucher and instead of a guaranteed medical benefit. now mitt romney is running ads across the country about getting tough on china. the same guy that washington post called the pioneer on outsourcing. the same guy who is criticized the president taking action against china, saving thousands of that of jobs and steel and the rubber industry. the same guy who invest in chinese companies. the same guy calling for what they now call a territorial tax which creates 800,000 jobs abroad according to experts. this is the guy who was governor of massachusetts who literally outsourced the call service that peop
they are running away from it now. look at what it does to medicare. as george said, it is shameless what they are saying. they are saying that we, we are hurting medicare. ladies and gentlemen, you know anyone on medicare? you are better off now than you were before we came in. $600 more for the doughnut hole. no co pay. saying to your doctor, no co pay for the annual visit. we have made it solvent. they would wipe it all out. the real secret, the real thing they are not talking about, are they going to talk about the convention? they are not talking about it now. the central element of the budget, they literally eliminated medicare as a guarantee program. even that train agrees with me. even the railroad knows i am telling the truth. [applause] here's the deal, here is the deal, you should all be aware of this, call-up anyone reaching the age of 65, when they become eligible for their new medicare plan, anyone who is automatically off of medicare, you can buy back in with a voucher. they would give you a coupon. but the coupon is designed not to keep pace with the cost of health care. t
he would propose a plan by now to save social security and medicare. he did not. rather, he rated $716 billion from the medicare to pay for obama-care. the list goes on. he said he would a lower health premiums by $2,000 a family. but instead they have gone up by $3,000 per family. the average american family pays $2,000 a year more for gasoline than when president obama was elected. i will mention one more thing. he said he would work across the aisle on the most important issues. this is interesting. he has not met on the economy or on the budget or on jobs with the republican leader of the house or the senate since july. and so, instead of bridging the divide, he is making it wider. people wonder how is that he has fallen so short of what he promised. i think it is in part because he has never led, he has never worked across the aisle, he has never truly understood how jobs are created in this economy. by the way, he is making new promises. promises he will not be able to keep because he admits he is planning on staying on the same path. the same course we have been on will not
draconian that would require deep cuts in social security and medicare over time. or we can embrace a balanced approach. that's what i support. i think we can go back to the kind of tax rates we had under the clinton administration when the upper income earners were doing well and the entire economy was growing. we will have to make some tough choices. a balanced approach is the only approach i believe will get us there. >> your rebuttal? >> it's amazing to me that you can stand here having voted 4 trillion dollar deficits for the last of four years, the largest, fastest debt increase in american history and say we have to control spending. you've done nothing to control spending over the last four years. with respect to cut, cap, and balance, it's amazing to me that the idea of cutting wasteful spending, capping the ability of congress to spend money we don't have, and balancing the budget is extreme. i think it would force congress to set priorities and stop funding things like solyndra and to prioritize things like social security, medicare, and education. that's why i support a
medicare recipients here in virginia now have eight additional years on medicare with extended medicare for another eight years. a healthy system. 63,000 young virginians have access to health care up to the age of 26. seniors now have access to preventive health care services, which is far cheaper treating it up front and an emergency room. we extended what governor romney did in massachusetts and did it nationwide and virginians have experienced improved health care and access because of that. education -- the president has been working on higher education higherpell grant access. -- higher education, grant access. a young woman told me i am not a democrat or republican, but i am supporting president obama because i am attending a local community college on a pell grant and president obama who doubled the size of pell grants so all of americans have access to higher education. if you look at the unemployment rate, if you have a bachelor's degree, 4%, associate's degree, about 6%. but if all you have is a high- school diploma, it is double digits. the president understands it. he is in
of the election is. also front page of the "wall street journal" medicare complicates the senior vote. senior citizens are a coveted bloc in florida where three make bum a quarter of the electr elee and they are important to romney given the deficit among young voters and minorities. he needs not only to win among seniors but win big. in 2008 john phmccain captured e group by 8% margin but lost to president barack obama. mr. romney is leading among the elderly by 6% to 12% a sign he may be weathering a charge by democrats that he and ryan with undermine medicare. that is the "wall street journal" this morning latest on that. if you are interested in the state of florida that is the first state we started in our series last wednesday. so, if you go to c-span tkaurpbg and type in -- c-span.org and type in florida you can watch those segments. frank in gulfport, mississippi, independent caller. what do you think is the trust level in government? caller: well, ma'am, i think the white house, president barack oba obama, is a fine president and to me it doesn't matter who becomes president. if you
for the europeans to say, hey, we're as european as you are, but yet we don't strengthen medicare money to provide for the basic security of an embassy. that to me is it inexcusable and whoever made those decisions, they already know that, you don't need a congressional investigation, whoever made those decisions ought to be fired. >> let me turn to susan, chief congressional correspondent for the washington examiner. >> senator, as you know, the house held a hearing about this very matter a few weeks ago and there were lots of questions answer he had, some of them, you were just talking about, about who said no to the extra security forces. there were many questions answered, but there were many left unanswered and there's also an internal investigation going on right now in the state department where they're supposedly looking for reasons behind all this. can you tell us a little bit about what going forward congress can really do to answer some of these questions, you know, many people in the public want the answers to, is there anything you can do to force the administration to talk more about
smith to go on the air and compare his ideas for example wanting to shut down medication -- medicare as we know it. that is a legitimate debate to have. but going on the air and sending $20 million to attack senator casey is what people are sick and tired of. he will be rejected in this election. host: let's go to bismarck, north dakota. thanks for waiting. caller: i would like the floor to yield 10 seconds. if i could reserve 10 more, i would like to be heard a little bit more. host: this is not the u.s. senate. caller: people who put the u.s. senate in place, my point of view as an independent is, when george bush was our present, -- president, you do not talk about the president negatively. he has the vote of the entire united states. it is the job of the congress and the senate to cooperate with our direct advocates straight from the top. he knows what we want because we voted for him. he made promises. it is your turn to help our president, our advocate. if he wants to make health care universal, help him figure it out, not sit back and figure point. host: let me get a response
debt, privatizing medicare, and social security, and in the funding education. -- and not funding education. we need to collaborate with both parties to solve problems and produce a balanced budget. my vision of government is a common-sense business approach by putting first the important issues on the front runner, regardless of political consequences. the best product on the list price, and best service. there is a difference between myself and my opponent tonight. 34 years at the ibm corporation with a reputation of working across the aisle while serving in the utah state senate. thank you for having us today. >> senator hatch? gregg's i'm glad to be here with you today. -- >> i'm glad to be here with you today. thank you for putting on this debate. our country is that a real crossroads. we are having real problems, and a question about it. but we know there is too much spending, too much regulation. we are $16 trillion in debt. should president obama be reelected, and i do not believe he will be, we will have over $20 trillion in debt. the average debt per family is $144,000.
would propose a plan to save social security and medicare from insolvency. he didn't. rather he raided $716 from medicare for his obama care plan. he said heed lower healthcare premiums for the average family by $2000 a year which now they're higher. and gasoline the american family pays $2,000 more a year than when the president was elected. he said he would work across the aisle on important issues. he has not met on the economy or budget or jobs with either the republican leader of the house or senate since july. so instead of bridging the divide he's made it wider. how has he fallen so sort of what he promised. in part because he never led before or worked across the aisle or understood how jobs are created in the real economy. so today he makes new promises. promises heel be enable to keep because he admits he's going to stay on the same path. the same path means $20 trillion in debt. it means crippling unemployment. stagnant take home pay. depressed home values and a devastated military. unless we change we may be looking at another recession. the question of this election comes
talking about who's going to spend more money on medicare when medicare's the system that you and i pay $30,000 into and get $100,000 benefit. it's a 3-1 what you pay in and what you get out. it's not sustainable. yet it's indicative of our federal government today which is on an institute, unsustainable path, the results of which are going to be a monetary collapse unless we actually bring this under control. and as a third party, i have been given the opportunity to make the case that's not being made by either of the two major candidates. >> thank you governor. [cheers and applause] >> a lot of people ask me why i would consent to do this. one, i like moderating and two, i like asking questions even though i didn't ask these questions, they were submitted. and three, i think these people deserve a lot of credit for coming forward. it's easy to sit back and watch these people stand up. they may not be counted on november 6, but they're counting today and they deserve to be heard. [cheers and applause] each is now entitled to a one minute response if they care to use it. jill? >> yeah,
that was not planned that privatized and made our social security and our medicare a private system. i believe a lot of those votes did not reflect our values, and that is what got me in this race. >> you can call me rick. i want to thank the league of women voters. of what like to thank i.t. for being here. i would like to thank everyone at home. america is going down the wrong track. if we do not be something about it, if we do not get our country back on the road to growth, might son, our children, and all of our grandchildren will not inherit the same country we get. there are key to the zero philosophies -- two callosities industries. by epsilon support the president's agenda, i am fighting against his failed policies because i believe north dakotans ought to be trusted to make decisions about their opportunities. i grew up in the western part of the state, i started a business in north dakota, i served in the best citizens of legislature in the country. we created policies that made north dakota the envy of the nation. we balance our budget i'm living within our means and making decisions toda
health care and medicare and social security. , where there are rules to protect our kids from toxic dumping and mercury poisoning. we think the market works better when consumers are protected from unscrupulous practices in the credit-card industry or from mortgage lenders and we believe that no politician in washington should control health care choices that women can make for themselves. [applause] for 80 years, we had a president who shared our beliefs and his name was bill clinton. [applause] his economic plan passed the wealthiest americans to pay a little more so we could reduce our deficit and invest in our future. at the time, the republican congress and a senate candidate by the name of mitt romney said this would hurt the economy and kill jobs. it turns out that his judgment was just as bad back then as it is today. [applause] by the end of president clinton + second term, america created 23 million new jobs and incomes were up in poverty was down and we had the biggest surplus in our history instead of a deficit. we know the ideas we believe in work. we know of their idea
is a booming industry. it has been, especially because of medicare and medicaid. but the whole thing is long-term projections. now, the president -- the government does not create business. it's small business people, but it's not -- the government can set up an environment that is helpful towards business, but under large taxation and policies that will crush business, i see that as a route that obama is taking. right now the free market is struggling. host: in the "financial times" this morning, u.s. lanes to stay on growth course -- u.s. lanes to stay on growth course. like a yacht in the wind, no sooner does the u.s. economy catch a breeze from one direction than a gust comes in from another and it struggle toss move forward. growth was in the third quarter of 2012 as gross domestic product rose at an annualized rate of 2%. housing gave the economy a boost. businesses, investment set it back. the growth data point to an economy with little momentum leaves considerable doubt about its resilience to the so-called fiscal cliff of tax rises and spending cuts due at the end of the year. host:
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